We Will Not Be Silenced About Hunters: November 2014

Friday, 28 November 2014

A1 Savannahs - a warning to those who love cats

Look at this picture, on the left we see the ugly truth about this man: a cat killer - on the right we see what he tries to portray to everyone else: a cat lover

a caracal is a rooikat (red cat)

''A1 Savannahs goal in breeding the Savannah is to raise healthy Savannah kittens, that in appearance are as close as possible to the African Serval, with sweet and domesticated personalities. They do the highly demanded Savannah to Savannah mating. They like to boast that ' A1 Savannahs was the first Cattery worldwide to breed down to the later generations and produce fertile F5 males.'

Yet for some strange reason they do not like to boast about THIS photo which clearly shows a photo from Martin M Engster's own Facebook page from 2010 . Do note the dates shown on the photo. Also note what he says : Very very rare trophy . Less than 200 per year in Namibia. a Red African Caracal ;

So we took this photo and pasted it to the Facebook page of A1 Savannahs, simply asking them to explain it, they immediately deleted the comment and blocked us.

Some of our page members from WWNBSAH also went over to question. As did other pages.

Their comments were instantly deleted and blocked also. We did not screen capture the first 12 comments in time. However we did get these ones;

One has to ask the question, IF these people feel they did nothing wrong, then WHY are they trying to cover it up?

Well we think it is fairly obvious why. They know that clients and potential clients LOVE cats, and would not want anything to do with people who get a kick out of killing them.

We have a message to A1 Savannahs. ''The truth will always out''

We have given A1 Savannahs ample opportunity to come tell their side of the story both via email and via Facebook . Unlike them we would not have instantly deleted their comment and blocked them

We also note they lie about when the caracal was killed. The photo says 'Africa 10 ' the date of posting is July 2010. That is not six years ago. It does not matter WHEN it was. The fact of the matter is he is a cat killer

We suggest you share this blog post on your Facebook and Twitter, they are trying to cover up, we will not let that happen.

We also suggest you contact this company and voice your thoughts and displeasure. (be polite, do not lower your own standards to theirs) They are on Facebook and Twitter,

Also:

Sales Phone: 580 716 9898

Cattery Phone: 580 718 0011

Email: sales@a1savannahs.com

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A1 Savannahs - Ponca City, Oklahoma

They can block comments on their page but they cannot block them here :-)

Finally, with SO many cats in this world needing a good home ADOPT DON'T BUY!!!!!

Sunday, 23 November 2014

John Shinsky Vs Elena Valdameri - BOTH in the wrong

We want to write this

It is not a retraction

It is not an apology

Our post on John Shinsky still stands - to teach him to think before he types

To those hunters defending his vile threats we say this : you claim he was being sarcastic. It does not look like sarcasm. Nor is there any tone of voice in text.

Read through these and see a common thread: John Shinsky keeps threatening to kill more animals just out of spite

By the same token Elena Valdameri was ALSO in the wrong. She was totally wrong to even suggest anyone should be killed. We have always taken the stance 2 wrongs do not make a right. It is obvious from the way that John Shinsky had a merry old time shooting his mouth off that he never learnt that expression. So to play fair we are publishing what was sent to us. (thank you WH )

However at the time of originally posting the now infamous JS meme we were not aware that it was Elena who had made the comment on Eva Shockey's (vile) Facebook page about kids. Elena you should be ashamed of yourself, as much as John should be

The majority of those of us against hunting are NOT violent people nor do they (or we ) condone violence . How can we be against violence to other species and accept it for our own. We cannot. We at WWNBSAH has never condoned violent wishes, threats whatever. (however please note: saying you hope someone gets killed is NOT a threat, it should not be said but it is NOT a threat of violence. Saying ''I will kill you!!'' well THAT is a threat of violence/death)

NOTE: We actually do have John's phone number and address. If we were as bad as he likes to tell people we are, we would have done what some other blogs and Facook pages do and publish . We have seen blogs that love putting up hunters photos with the address, telephone , email info etc of the hunter .We have not done that and nor will we . We also frown against people who do publish that sort of thing be it on FAcebook or blogs.

However it seems John's friends are not adverse to sending 'death threats' via comments to our blog . One choice one today said '' you f*****ng bastard I will track you down and slit your stupid dumbass treehugging throat'' amongst other nice expressions and charming words

Nice eh? We did not publish that one for obvious reasons :-)

Please note the following screen shots of text comments are from Eva Shockeys's (vile) Facebook page and not our own. All this happened on her Facebook page not that of WWNBSAH's page.

As you can clearly see John is telling people opposed to hunting that if they do not stop objecting that he and they (other hunters) will kill MORE animals . It is a common threat from them. We often get these vile killers commenting on page ''I shall kill MORE animals in YOUR honour''

John asks when did a hunter become a serial killer ... John should read HERE about Robert Hansen, an avid hunter who then switched his hunting lusts to to that of hunting and killing humans. Robert is not the only hunter to have done so, John should do his research , because as he will now realise , he now 'comes off as stupid''

Thursday, 20 November 2014

John Shinsky - doing a great job at BAD PR for 'hunters'

Thanks to AR for sending us the little montage

Thanks to DL for sending us this JS photo the poor buck is already dead but see how JS must brandish his weapon to feel like the hard man (perhaps that is a penile extension in his hand? )

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Screen captures from Eva Shockey's hunting Facebook page:

We are editing this to add this other screen capture that came to light since the posting of this article that shows Elena Valdameri letting the anti-hunting side down as much as John let his side down with his crazy comments. Elena you do not do OUR (animal rights) cause any favours with stupid ridiculous comments like that.

We feel however though that despite her stupid comment John Shinsky should learn to keep a hold on his temper instead of responding in kind with threats to kill out of sheer spite. We often have hunters coming to our own facebook page making threats and saying vile stuff like ''hope you miscarry'' ''go f**** and die you tree huggers' amongst many more. We (the Admin team) would never reduce our own level to theirs)